Brock: Dude what's up.
Mike: Brock!
yo
I'm reading nobel speeches! So much nutrition!
what you up to?
Brock: Just shouting you out. How are ya?
Merry Fucking Xmas and all that.
Are we gonna change the world in CPH this week or are we toast?
Mike: I'm going to a big-ass protest on saturday. Though literally no one I've talked to knows what we're actually protesting. It’s the James Deans leading the James Deans.
Brock: Good on ya, man, I admire you.
Yeah, always hard to channel general dissatisfaction.
Mike: seriously. No one knows what the fuck they're doing
I’m just going because I want to be photographed holding a sign that says The Climes They Are A-Changin'
you been following this whole shit?
Brock: Kinda, but it's rather like electing a pope.
All behind closed doors.
Mike: Let's hope this ends with someone from the Hitler Youth as well
Brock: From here, I can only cross fingers.
Write letters, promote discussion, etc, but there hasn't been a whole lot to follow.
Mike: do you particularly care about this issue? Being a scientist and all?
Brock: Fuck it, we need total climate Nazis right now.
I think it's terrifying.
Mike: So you're on board with The Whole Gore Yards
what do you think we should do? Or they should do, or whatever?
Brock: I am pretty convinced that life will change dramatically within our lifetime due to climate change.
And I actually think it's probably way too late.
Mike: Yeah? I defer to your judgement on this, scientifically
what did it for you, originally?
Brock: Hmmmm good question.
I've seen some really compelling data.
If you just measure CO2 levels, that freaks that shit out of me.
Mike: So you're directly convinced by the science . Not through a Bono-shaped conduit, like the rest of us
Brock: It correlates spectacularly well with global temperature.
Mike: I've seen that graph too it's insane
Brock: That it's unlinked is statistically irrelevant.
And if you extrapolate into the future….
That's when it gets really really scary.
Because there is no reason to think that the relationship will change.
Mike: what do you think the politicians should do, particularly?
Brock: Dramatically invest in economic incentives for cleaner living.
That's vague but we need to jump over this hurdle where action for climate impedes economic viability.
Mike: It would be great to point to a country and be like 'lets be like them!' but everyone is kind of dropping the ball it sounds like
you like any particulars?
Brock: Forest credits for tropical countries.
Keep the carbon in trees and out of the air.
oh yeah Brazil's experimenting with that, right?
Brazil is turning their shit around.
If every tropical country did the same it would help.
Mike: any new stuff coming out from the scientific side?
new revelations, new solutions?
Brock: Unfortunately, way too much negative publicity and that's it.
A few dumbasses joking about manipulating data really does a lot of damage.
Mike: Is there a new emerging scientific consensus? Either on the problem side or the solution side?
Brock: Well, I think that's the scary thing, that the scientific consensus is that we really really really fucked up on this.
Solutions seem completely unrealistic at this point.
We need to basically cut in half CO2 emissions immediately.
Mike: no way, it's that bad?
Brock: If you look at the projections, it's really bad.
Mike: Jesus, the Day After Tomorrow is starting to look more and more like a documentary
Brock: I mean, if population change keeps expanding.
It's bad man.
Mike: so as the science emerges, it's actually getting fucking worse? What's the timeline?
Brock: Dunno, I gotta defer on this one.
It's irresponsible for scientists to overpredict.
Mike: true. Especially in these trying times of abundant Palintry
Brock: Yet this causes tremendous understandable frustration on the part of citizens and enemies of science.
Science is not, never has been, never should be, political.
Mike: This conversation helps me know what to protest on Saturday
My sign is staying the same though